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Originally Posted by l33t-krew
That is a copout. I respect your opinion, but I dont think that your answer is that simplistic. I know it sounds "cool" but to suggest that religion is the root of evil is the biggest load of SHIT. It is in fact the absolute opposite. Though social changes change things, it is religion which keeps us from being animals. Lets face it, societies change all the time. What is acceptable now, may be taboo in the future and vice versa. The gospels are just as relevant today as 2000 years ago. Lets face it, morals have to be based on something. If you fundementally dont belive in God, there are no consequences but what society decides is right. Our society is based on a Christian ethos. THATS why we have a ordered existence, and not a society based on animalistic instincts, which is what we are without God.
Without God we are merely entitys bound by nothing.
And you CANT prove it is false. What religious believers have is faith. Our faith is not misplaced. Maybe you are right. Maybe I will die and that is it. But thats not what I believe.
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Some good points there. But perhaps I didn't finish painting the picture. I believe in a higher power. I believe that there is a god, or gods, of some design, because I believe in the principle that "everything has to come from something". I also hope that death is not the ultimate end, because who among you can imagine not existing in some way. It is all we know and to think otherwise isn't very pleasant.
But I don't like my words to be trivialized. I wasn't trying to be "cool" though I do appreciate the compliment if that is what your aim was to do.
Morals and values do not stem from religion. They were there long before the idea of "Jesus" came about, long before the bible was written, etc. Morals and values and all of the qualities that makes us human, that make our society work, existed long before the time of the Egyptians, and the Sumeritans, and the Babylonians, and the Gobbledygooks, and even the Doohickies. They are a reflection of how we ourselves would wish to be treated in an ideal world.
And no matter how one views it, the fact STILL remains that man invented religion. Man wrote the books, built the churches, and designed all of our little rituals that we perform in the name of god.
Watch the pope driving down the street in the "Pope-mobile" and tell me there's an answer there.
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Originally Posted by flamingatom
all i want to say is, if u want to be saved, if u want to b prepared in facing rupture and facing God, ...then, until were here on earth, believe in God and He will save u and live with Him at paradise!
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See what I mean? Can you just picture him watching the religion channel and rubbing the TV with his cheek pressed against the glass?
I don't have a problem with religion personally. I just know that whatever immense all-knowing creator of the universe, doesn't give a flying crap about where you sit on Sunday morning.