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04-09-2008, 04:41 PM
i once was a christen in my previous life i dint much care for it , i relaized that budism was my religioin or my way of life , cristeianity isnt really that good on some terms it is but mostly it isnt even thoug the worlds most population is does it not make you wounder if it were the world i mean if it were jewish, even budism budism is a way of life and a religion and it teaches us not to want things !!! materail postions , and then we have jewish they know how to get what they want and they want all the time , and then cristens its in the middle thwy want what they can have and they want what they think they can have ,
#i guess what i am trying to say is , everything at the end of the day is up to the one SIN flaw in humens we want too much all the time,
if we wanted less there wouldnt be fights WARS, Distubes ,
do you get what i am saying
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04-10-2008, 03:46 AM
I will be a christian all my life. Jesus saves all!
However, I wouldn't put it as black and white as: Islam is taking over
In my community, 98 percent of people are god loving, people loving christians. I think the real reason Islam is making a jump right now is because of the recent conflicts overseas, as many of the terrorism acts over there are because of islam. I realize what i say here may offend, as there are many peaceful people that believe in islam. But know this: Islam is NOT A PEACEFUL religion. Why are people suicide bombing? Because they believe that they are getting rewards in heaven.
Another reason why Islam has been making a jump right now is because it is similar to Christianity.
But trust me, you are not forced to read this, but if you want to be happy, go buy a bible and crack it open. Follow EVERYTHING it says, except what is contradicted by the laws in the new testament. Go to church. Might sound bad, but give it a chance! If you follow the laws and love Jesus, then you will definetly like what you get after you pass away ^^
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04-10-2008, 05:43 AM
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I will be a christian all my life. Jesus saves all!
However, I wouldn't put it as black and white as: Islam is taking over
In my community, 98 percent of people are god loving, people loving christians. I think the real reason Islam is making a jump right now is because of the recent conflicts overseas, as many of the terrorism acts over there are because of islam. I realize what i say here may offend, as there are many peaceful people that believe in islam. But know this: Islam is NOT A PEACEFUL religion. Why are people suicide bombing? Because they believe that they are getting rewards in heaven.
Another reason why Islam has been making a jump right now is because it is similar to Christianity.
But trust me, you are not forced to read this, but if you want to be happy, go buy a bible and crack it open. Follow EVERYTHING it says, except what is contradicted by the laws in the new testament. Go to church. Might sound bad, but give it a chance! If you follow the laws and love Jesus, then you will definetly like what you get after you pass away ^^
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By that throw away my morals as a human being if the bible says otherwise, even God himself gave man reason and morals, Even the bible isn't 100% accurate and on top of that the Christian Church itself hides the truth from the public to preserve its old presence and practices and literally hand picks which apostle's book makes it into our bible. I don't know where this anti-Islam movement is coming from (probably American Politics), you guys talk as if a Muslim has personally intervened in your personal life and brought hell. Even though what Muslims practice are old Christian traditions taken to extreme points with the added bonus of what Muhammad preached and Middle Asian traditions. Can you really blame Islam for being a couple hundred years behind Christianity in historical terms? Can't you guys remember it wasn't that long ago that the ideologies of freedom were born which in itself is heresy and the church then had to reform itself from its contradicting practices? The only thing you can blame Islam is for not having that many blessed radicals who would give up their life's for new ideas. Also Middle Asia couldn't and wouldn't adapt to western ways because of all the damage that have been done by the Western Empires! Would you blame them for not following the ways of the people who killed and exploited their children/grandfathers/mothers/fathers/etc.. Yes so what Muhammad had a few violent passages towards the end of his life, he above all else was human like all the other apostles and he wasn't perfect, he probably did all for the right reasons because he probably was facing invasions, which in a sense people are manipulating his last words for their own gains. The only perfect apostle that I know of is Jesus and was probably the only one who never resorted to violence yet gave up the most precious thing for us, his own body, to forgive our sins, in a sense to give us a freedom of choice and always have the ability to come back and repent. Jesus = Freedom, Freedom of Choice, Mercy but above all never hate those you don't understand. But still those in the church try to distort this image build upon their own views and dismiss this basic simplistic view point. Even Muhammad acknowledges Jesus as an apostle but like he said the old books lost its way because it was influenced by other peoples personal views and the true message has been permanently distorted. Also you'll be surprised on how much it takes for a person to throw away their life's needlessly. Also to the horrible conditions they live in, if you don't live a life similar to theirs and have all this luxuries, who are you to judge them when they are promised that if they throw away their life for the sake of their family to have enough food for the year. We cannot judge them for their actions only God could do that and believing the mainstream media is bull crap and the real reason why this people blow themselves up isn't known and in a sense we can't never know what they have been told, so what makes you think that the media knows the truth
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i once was a christen in my previous life i dint much care for it , i relaized that budism was my religioin or my way of life , cristeianity isnt really that good on some terms it is but mostly it isnt even thoug the worlds most population is does it not make you wounder if it were the world i mean if it were jewish, even budism budism is a way of life and a religion and it teaches us not to want things !!! materail postions , and then we have jewish they know how to get what they want and they want all the time , and then cristens its in the middle thwy want what they can have and they want what they think they can have ,
#i guess what i am trying to say is , everything at the end of the day is up to the one SIN flaw in humens we want too much all the time,
if we wanted less there wouldnt be fights WARS, Distubes ,
do you get what i am saying
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I agree, it is the simple lusts and pleasures that lead humans into self-destruction, but people are never pleased with what is enough to live in this world, they want more unnecessary luxuries and it's those ideals that lead us to war, but for someone to understand this beautiful goal, they need to see the bigger picture, that to live a simple life is beautiful in itself and usually that vision doesn't come by that easily. It's through multitude of harsh experience and educational enlightenment that one would be just satisfied with a simple life, but that in itself is not a guarantee because its hard to break through the arrogance of some people's unnecessary lustful reality.
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04-10-2008, 07:21 AM
ill just shoot any islam that trys to recruit me. that simply and very easy ;)
Here, have a cookie asshole.
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04-10-2008, 10:21 AM
Just Only Believe In Tourself And There Is Only One God Said In The Bible
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04-10-2008, 12:14 PM
I ain't gonna write a huge comment.
Christanity = FTW
Islam = sux0r IMO
I am currently waging world war 3.
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04-10-2008, 12:35 PM
>.< guess some people don't listen to reason and some have contradicting ideologies in their signature
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04-10-2008, 12:36 PM
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i once was a christen in my previous life i dint much care for it , i relaized that budism was my religioin or my way of life , cristeianity isnt really that good on some terms it is but mostly it isnt even thoug the worlds most population is does it not make you wounder if it were the world i mean if it were jewish, even budism budism is a way of life and a religion and it teaches us not to want things !!! materail postions , and then we have jewish they know how to get what they want and they want all the time , and then cristens its in the middle thwy want what they can have and they want what they think they can have ,
#i guess what i am trying to say is , everything at the end of the day is up to the one SIN flaw in humens we want too much all the time,
if we wanted less there wouldnt be fights WARS, Distubes ,
do you get what i am saying
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All the things that you mentioned that are good about buddhism can be directly applied to Christianity.
That is the miracle of our creation, and another example of the infinite love God has for us. He gave us this world, this beautiful, perfectly tailored world. He didnt add stipends onto the agreement, he gave it to us condition free. We have a choice. We can chose to look after it or not. We can chose to have material possessions or not.
Material possessions are not bad. That basically covers all. It covers computers, alcohol etc etc. Jesus did not want us to live like that. He understands that we are human, and its not the material goods themselves that are "sinful" its the way in which they can be exploited/abused.
Take for example his first miracle when he was on this earth. The wedding at Cana. The parties ran out of wine. In those times, it was a most embarrasing affair and would not reflect well on anyone. But lets face it, they obviously had had a huge amount to drink to have drunk it all lol. Did Jesus turn funny and start spouting of morals? No. He realised that as humans we have to enjoy ourselves to fufil ourselves. Thus he turned water into wine, and quite a large quantity at that.
What is wrong with wanting stuff? I agree that it can get out of hand, and as a Christian, I hope I do my part in helping less fortunate people than myself out. Buddhism, while a nice idealogy, is grossly impractical for the human race. While it may suit a particular sort of person, I belive that it can be restricting and ultimatly unfufilling. If you actually look at the restrictions that religions put on its adherents, Christianity is remarkably laid back. The few rules we have are indisputably for our own and societies good.
And lets not forget forgivness. The thing that is so pure and indescribly......lol cant describe it.
It is a beautiful thing forgiveness. Now THAT can change the world, instead of giving up material goods. To be able to say "I forgive you" , to follow the bible in "turning the other cheek". Think of all that can be accomplished with that statement. The absolute divine forgivness.
And yes, meekness does reward you, both on this life and the next. People respect the kind of devotion and power that forgiveness brings. People remember and cherish you. You set an example, an example that can snowball.
Consider Islams reward, and what has to be done. Their "god" demands Justice, he demands retribution and above all, the mandate for Islam is "conversion". A muslim is guranteed a place in heaven for conversion or for dying in the attempt. THATS why we have such fanactism, and THATS why Islam is so dangerous. How can you compromise with someone who honestly believes that converting/killing you will get him into heaven.
meh I dont hold any of my words to bear. Im a young dude who still hasnt got a complete understanding as of yet. But I can guarantee you that the journey is one WELL worth taking. It inspires morals, is incredibly rewarding etc. Yet none of these should persuade you. You should not need persuading. You should experience Jesus in your heart, and the moment of realisation (can be a variety of things) is enough to make your heart feel as if it will explode. We all have different ways of experiencing Jesus, but no matter what religion you are, know that God loves you beyond our mortal comprehension. So when you are in dire need or at any time, please explore the issue within your heart.
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04-10-2008, 12:55 PM
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Consider Islams reward, and what has to be done. Their "god" demands Justice, he demands retribution and above all, the mandate for Islam is "conversion". A muslim is guranteed a place in heaven for conversion or for dying in the attempt. THATS why we have such fanactism, and THATS why Islam is so dangerous. How can you compromise with someone who honestly believes that converting/killing you will get him into heaven.
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I think those requirements you state are only meet in a Jihad (Jihad= A war against God) , can't remember now because now I am trying to learn Chinese history, but who knows because I am not going to read the Qu'ran.
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04-10-2008, 12:59 PM
Religion is the root of all evil. It's the culmination of our caveman ancestors gazing into the night sky, needing an answer to our existence, and ultimately capitalizing on it.
Religion has caused more harm than good. It is a wall which divides us.
The fact remains that NOBODY - not you, or your parents, or any single human being who has or now currently lives on this planet, TRULY knows who or what "god" is, if such a being exists, why we're here, if indeed we actually have a reason to be here, the meaning of life, etc.
All we can really do is speculate and wonder.
The Bible, the Koran, all of the holy books and texts and sermons and gospels, ALL of religion was created by man, written by man, published by man, and sold by man.
Debate it all you'd like. Religion is just an escape from the reality that you don't have the answer.
The only true value of religion is the morals and standards that it represents. How to live your life as a good person - don't kill, don't steal, take a day off from work once a week...
...but did anyone REALLY need to tell you that?
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