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04-14-2008, 02:25 AM

furmat60 dude, we cant prove it, but cherish in your heart the knowledge of God's existence. Until recently I took God's existance as granted. Then one day I was in a similiar position to yours. It was when I was standing over my sisters hospital bed with the priest giving her the last rites. It was after that when I was outside the unit, and I was waiting and waiting that it clicked. You would not belive that sheer relief and absolute joy it gave me. Two hours later, my sister is still alive. 6 months later, she is now starting to move again.

Just knowing God's existence is a beautiful thing to comprehend. Though it maybe considered timewasting, its fantastic to sit and just muse over it with yourself.

I wish all the best for you and your family furmat60, and I shall include you in my prayers.







  
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04-14-2008, 02:48 AM

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Bull. How would you explain my sister getting a deadly disease that only affects 1 in 100,000 people, then it just disappearing a week later, with no trace it had ever been there?
Chemical reactions that humans haven't discovered yet that could only happen in that number of people. Remember, we will never know everything.

And mind you, we're having a conversation here, not a war. I'm not dissing your beliefs, I'm simply pointing out mine.







  
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04-14-2008, 04:37 AM

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God isn't real, its an entity that has different definitions and is a tool to scare people and drive them to do and behave in certain ways. A tool that is made by humans, to control other humans.

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04-14-2008, 06:51 AM

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God isn't real, its an entity that has different definitions and is a tool to scare people and drive them to do and behave in certain ways. A tool that is made by humans, to control other humans.
yup, that's what I see too.
but what does it matter?







  
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04-14-2008, 11:00 AM

I believe that God is a symbol and not a tool. They are two different things. A symbol that all we used to mark what is well and badly, but at level " espiritual".

Then, God is at spiritual level what the law is to the society… but is all relative one

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04-14-2008, 02:32 PM

For some one to not believe in god means that they believe that all of the facts and evidence isnt true? and that they believe that our ansesters simply made up facts of Christianity and most other religions, which is obviously quiet idiotic because of the simple fact that the Bible it self tells story's based from millions of years ago.

And God is called history, and to this day archaeologist are still finding dinosaur remains and remains of ancient soldiers from the Spartan and Persionian period which is pure facts. Just like God. So if we have proof of dinosours....lol why can some one not believe that the complexity of the world was created by God.







  
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04-14-2008, 02:50 PM

Very clinical X cieciora X, and very very true.

Take for example the disciples of Christ.Why would they all evangelise to the point of death if they did not believe that Christ was the messiah. Hell they came from all walks of life.







  
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04-14-2008, 04:39 PM

I think It Is just a tool like shazam siad lol









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04-14-2008, 05:31 PM

I think religion is bogus, and so is the concept of a "conscious" superior being.

I believe in the unpredictable.
and unless someone can prove me that there's no such thing as randomness.. I'll stick to this way of thinking.
heck, I'll stick to it no matter what.

there's no master plan, there's only chance. it all got to happen, in one way or another.
everything happened to happen.
furthermore, we know too little about the world itself to start speculating about the nature of gawd.







  
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04-14-2008, 06:59 PM

hello guyz! just got hooked with this topic and i got some questions to ask.

I havn't read the bible yet but I know somehow dinosaurs are not mentioned there. according to the bible...

take a look at this simple timeline:

1. genesis(beginning)

2. eve adan(and others in the old testament)

3. jesus christ

4. new testament (if i'm not wrong)

5. then US(our present time)

can anyone tell me where in this timeline the dinosaurs lived? they are not mentioned in the bible right?

god said he created the earth completely from nothing that's why everyone called him GOD THE CREATOR. he is the only real CREATOR. cause he could create from nothing(that's what they say)

what i'm saying is dinosaurs cannot exist before god created earth. so dinosaurs must exist right between FROM THE GENESIS to OUR PRESENT TIME.

when exactly? and why does the bible never told about them? the dinosaur's existence might prove bible false right?







  
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