In essence, God is what compels us, drives us, even forces us to do things. The way we live our lives are based around our experiences and beliefs which compel us, drive us and even force us to do things. If you really think about it considering everything, God essentially is an idea which acts as a guide through life - compelling, driving, etc.
It doesnt matter how or what you believe in as long as you DO believe in it. The core basics of every religion are the same - subject to very little variance and so whats important isnt "whcih god" or "how" but simply just to believe.
Some of us are compelled to work out the kinks of this and consider how or why. This desire itself is part of your god. This is because you follow the rules in your mind that say that it is alright for you to ask these questions.
Im sure iive repeated myself enoiugh but in the very essence and core of everything - God IS, in a sense, everything and everywhere. But what you can define as god is not out there somewhere but rather, inside somewhere. what is stated about god is usually quite true but what god IS, is something that varies everywhere. It is what entitles this "god" which matters.

haha sorry mate got your point now!

hmmm.....If life was made easy then no lessons would be learnt, and the only reason there are the current situations within Africa and the world and money povity...war is because of US not "God" To blame some one or thing else for your and our own mistakes can only be seen as childish and or immature. For any one to believe that any.... every thing would be perfect, if every thing was perfect...needs to grasp that life it self is built of miss fortunes and unhappiness without these key factors none of us or any one would grow to a maturer and more understanding stage of life.

No one can say its gods fault for any thing that happens, mainly because who is doing it? US, its not like we are being forced to let our countries go into war or povity? we have legal systems of politics that is controlled by yet again US we have never been forced to fight or for other people to thrive off misfortune.

And finally because of every single bad historical happening there has been a high side of the pain, for example Hitler, i dont need to reiterate the man or his over powering dreams and views, but because of the war and effects he had on Russia it was a small country that had nothing, and after the wars up to date now it remains one of the strongest country's in the world. Also, Franch and England because closer because of the war.

And finally the last historical man, that dosnt get more respect that he deserves is Martin Luthar King, because of one man, the worlds views on colored people were changed completely after years of punishment to his self and loved ones his life made a difference.

Pain and misfortunes is a huge part of life, and rather you believe and turn to god or simply believe in another, no matter what the matter is.....dont question "God" because you dont think some things not fair....because Life Isnt!

I love how since you can't answer my question, your first thing is to insult me by telling me that I don't do anything. Its not about me. Its about your so called god, who is supposedly ALL POWERFUL yet he can't even give the kids some fucking food.

Please inform me what the kids in Africa can learn by waking up every day and knowing, knowing for sure, that they are going to get very little to no food that entire day or know that when night comes they are going to sleep again in a poorly built shelter. Or that their mothers are going to be raped or their family members kidnapped to be in the local war lord's army.

Explain.

You could do that by killing those political human scums who profit off war while trying to keep Africa a hell hole for tomorrows 2 dollar gain. You can't see that the flaw lay in humans not a system of beliefs.

Being a complete non-believer, I often wonder; why does god cure people with illnesses and diseases but never amputees??! Does he have some kind of prejudice against people missing arms or legs that he never cares to cure THEM. Interesting.
Seriously though. If you feel like being enlightened, pick up the book "The God Delusion" by Richard Hawkins. One part I found markedly fascinating was the part on Russell's Teapot: Russell's teapot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

excerpt:
"If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."

Your thought my friend is faily safe, the only problem with that is that the army and the guns are controlled by these political scums. And these political scums make sure that they are safe from self-aware, intelligent people like you and me.

Amen to that. I am picking that book from the library as soon as I have time.

I heard the teapot suggestion before. Amazing, isn't it?

-ShazaM

Yes i've also heard it's quite good.

I want to add something to:

The theory for god and if he exists or if he doesn't will go on and on, and will proboully never be found to a 100% fact. But there are good statements and opinions in this thread that should be respected. :rolleyes:

I think that God was the first Immature because HE, the all-powerful one, knew what was going to happen, sooner or later... HE wanted to give us an opportunity, and this it was his first mistake.

Is the best opinion in this thread... :)

Actually I found the quote kinda lame. He is talking about a nonsensical item and trying to equate with the notion of God. Whether you are a believer or athiest, I think we can all agree, that the analogy of a teapot is pretty shite. Basically all that is, is the standard ritual of a "mans" belief. The idea of God is in a different kettle of fish.


Richard Dawkins is an absolute fag fucker. All you athiest dudes accusing religions of being irrational should look in their own camps first. He is essentially the biggest opposer to free will.